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March 10, 2008
Town Board Minutes
The Town Board
meeting was called to order at 5:30 p.m.
Approval
of agenda.
Tom
Becher made a motion to approve the agenda.
Andy Peters seconded the motion and it was carried.
Has
the agenda been properly posted? Yes
Public
hearing – Patric Stahl – Special Use Permit to operate a small steel
rule die shop at W7547 Wisconsin Ave.
The
hearing was called to order at 5:32 p.m.
This was previously held by the Planning Commission but the notice had
incorrect time. It was
rescheduled. Patric Stahl state
he would like a small shop that makes steel rule dies with one part time
employee. He wants to rehab some
of the buildings already there or build a new one if barn is not sound for
rehabbing. The barns will be
fixed up regardless. It is
similar to a small cabinet shop.
The Town received a letter dated 2-25 from Bev and Gary Huettl and David
Beck who are not in favor of the special use permit.
They want to keep the area residential.
They feel Mr. Stahl should look for area in the business park.
Mr. Stahl stated he is in a building already.
He is renting. He would
like to use that money to rehab the barns.
It will not change the area at all.
Mr. Stahl’s Attorney stated it will not be a high traffic area in
and out. Shipping will be done
by UPS. He is making patterns
rather than production. He feels
it is consistent with the home based businesses.
Randy Leiker stated in the letter we received, the people felt it
would change the zoning of the area. It
will not. David Beck is
concerned with if he might want to start a business across the street.
Why wouldn’t I get the same treatment? Randy stated you would be
able to apply for a special use just like Mr. Stahl did.
It is not guaranteed that it would be approved but he has every right
to apply. Mr. Beck is concerned
that eventually more businesses would go in on that same plot of land.
Dave Tebo stated it is just what is requested that is being approved.
He would have to come back with any changes.
Randy stated the Planning Commission put a review clause on that it
be reviewed every two years. They
would look at that time if there are any complaints and they would be
addressed. The permit could be
pulled if the conditions are not being followed. David
Beck was present and he and his wife are still against.
Tom Becher made a motion to close the public hearing.
Mark Strobel seconded the motion and it was carried and closed at
5:37 p.m.
Approve/deny
above special use permit for Patric Stahl
Mr.
Stahl stated he is putting the plans together now.
His plans for a rehab will have to be approved by the Building
Inspector. He talked to Mr.
Anderson from the State. He
wants the Building Inspector to approve the plans first and then give them
to the State. The building needs
a new floor and foundation and paint. It
will still look like a barn and have the farm look to it.
Nothing will be over the size of approximately the small barn out
towards road. He does not want
to heat a large area or change the look of the property.
His first choice is to fix the grain shed.
He may not be able to. If
foundation is no good, it won’t work.
The floor has already been taken out.
The garage was repaired and the chicken coop taken down.
The foundation is cracked on one side.
If it can’t be done, they will use the bottom for storage and use
the top. He will also repair the
barns. He is trying to save the
buildings and the look and feel of the property.
He does not have a problem with two employees.
It is all going to computers and automated processes.
His hours are from 7-5 or 7- 6. There
is no real loud machinery, just a router table saw and jig saw.
Mike Woods made a motion to approve with the conditions of the hours from 7
a.m. to 6 p.m. and contingent on the approval of the buildings and review in
two years. Andy Peters
seconded the motion and it was carried.
Meeting with Outagamie County Planner, Mike Hendrick, to discuss County
Comprehensive Plan.
Randy
Leiker wanted to comment on the plan. He
would feel better if there was stronger language for using farmland for
future expansion. Acreage
projected to be needed is somewhere around 16,182 acres.
The language says brownfield use and reuse and looking at other
alternatives rather than farmland. Mike
Hendrick stated he will need the cooperation from the other entities to make
this work and use land more efficiently.
Mike noted that agriculture is a primary business use and at the same
time we are chewing up farmland. Mike
stated we need to do things differently and reuse.
Ag is very important to the economy.
Randy questioned how serious is the County at looking at a regional
PDR (Purchase of Development Rights) or TDR (Transfer of Development rights)
option. Mike stated it has
to be explored. He stated that
lets get the philosophy down first and then look at where we get the money
from. County wide would level
the playing field. It has to be
addressed. This has to be
preceded with an educational program before taking it to the County Board or
it will get shot down. Individual
property rights – are those development rights or conventional rights such
as water and mineral. Mike
stated it will not extend to development rights at this point.
Many farmers who sat in on the meetings stated this is their
retirement. We can’t ignore that statement either.
The Airport Overlay covers much of Greenville.
Randy feels it is much stricter than around the country.
Randy feels it needs to be looked at.
Is this plan willing to look at this?
Mike stated it was looked at with the prior airport manager.
They had looked at creating a matrix and wanted their opinions.
We have not heard from anyone back on it.
Mike stated we need to know if we stick to densities, can we cluster.
Will it be allowed? We
are trying to differentiate between uses.
Randy stated that for transportation and railroad uses, it should
look at commuter rail service. It
could be a viable solution or a park and ride service.
Would airport have room for park and ride?
Also, possibly have extended bus service out to Greenville.
What else would it take to hit the industrial park areas?
Mike stated this is a draft. We
are required by Statute to adopt it. As
Greenville prepares our plan, the county will amend their plan to coincide
and make it compatible.
Dean Culbertson stated this was on County Board agenda two weeks ago.
The Board has not taken action on it yet.
It is a draft and is comprehensive.
Dean has not heard anything in over a year on the matrix.
Things should happen with new airport director.
PDR and TDR is an option that should be in the County plan. The
County should take lead on it. Randy
stated it should be a regional plan through new north and spread the cost of
a plan out to a regional area. We can look at more prime farmland to save.
John Julius stated there are so many different places for funding.
Mike Woods heard towns are struggling with matching up with the County.
Mike Hendrick stated it is more important that we match up with our
neighbors. If the planning
process has public input, Hendricks sees no problem with adopting it the way
it is. Dean Culbertson stated
the plan is pointed toward rural towns.
It really does not have much impact on cities and villages.
Am I Correct? Yes.
Towns have the Urban Towns Association and other groups to work with.
Cities and villages do not have a similar group.
Culbertson questioned If the town comfortable with this plan.
The County Board is voting on this tomorrow night.
Randy would feel more comfortable if other issues were taken into
consideration such as the airport overlay, and looking elsewhere other than
the agricultural land. Mike
Hendrick stated that was our practice. We
take greenfields first and then look at brownfields.
Sharon Tornes questioned how you get a County Board to realize the
agricultural land thing is upside down.
We should save ag land.
Travis Thyssen from Grand Chute stated they are facing a lot of problems
with the airport overlay also. It
is difficult for developers and lawsuits are developing.
Randy agreed that Greenville also has many problems with the overlay.
Grand Chute would be willing to work with Greenville on the overlay.
Sheriff’s Dept. Liaison officer.
Captain
Jobe has the detailed report of
the call for service report. Randy
Leiker stated the Law Enforcement Committee will meet one more time before
deployment of the officer this summer. With
the speed limit being lowered on highway 15, the Sheriff’s Department will
be enforcing it.
Tom Becher stated the semi is back at the park again by the Co-op.
Captain Jobe stated the company was called about the parking and they
were told it was posted for no parking.
It was there the whole weekend. Hopefully
this will resolve it.
Reports
Fire Department/First Responders reports – accept
minutes
The
minutes stated that the Department had an alert 3 at airport and it was
unorganized. Tom Becher stated
the Department will be discussing this at their meeting tonight.
Randy would like a follow up on it.
Tom stated the jaws and pump on the heavy rescue was not what they
thought it would be. TNT was
going to rebuild it. Instead of
fixing it they gave them a new jaws and fixed at no cost.
Andy Peters made a motion to accept the meeting minutes.
Mark Strobel seconded the motion and it was carried.
1st
Responder Minutes
Tom
Becher made a motion to accept. Mike
Woods seconded the motion and it was carried.
Park
Commission - accept minutes.
No
meeting- no minutes.
Park Department (Tony) report – accept
The
Lioness has agreed to be a sponsor for all five movie nights in the park
this summer. Tony
stated he will have a lower level sponsor throughout the whole season.
It will be easier to do with the whole season.
If we get all we are looking for, it will not cost Town anything.
T-shirts can be sold with the sponsor name on them.
Randy would like the proposals for street trees (paid for by each new lot
owner – not tax dollars) tabled to see what is being compared to what.
Tony stated he went through them all.
The proposal was for 370 trees. 343
of the trees were cheaper at Treations.
They provide a better cost overall.
They have been doing it for us for the past couple of years.
Tony is satisfied with them. Andy
Peters made a motion to table this to look at proposals to make sure we know
what we are getting. Mark
Strobel seconded the motion and it was carried.
Urban Forestry Board – accept minutes.
No minutes were submitted.
Constable
Report – accept
Vicki is having trouble with someone trapping cats.
She has the DNR working with her.
This man does not want them in his yard.
Dave Tebo will talk with Rich Carlson about what we can do about
this. Vicki stated she has
found people trying to surrender their own animals at the Humane Society. They
are treating them as strays. There
is no cost to surrender their own animal but there is for a stray.
An individual turning in strays ups our cost at the shelter.
There is also a belief out there to shoot the animal if you don’t
want them.
Mark Strobel made a motion to accept the Constable report.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Planning
Commission recommendations. All
approvals are contingent on staff review comments.
a.
Silverleaf, LLC for a 7 unit condominium plat in Greenville Crossing
south of Neubert Road.
Mark
Strobel has an issue with the one building in the Town setback.
Dave Tebo stated this was previously approved as a PUD.
We allow setbacks less than street setbacks.
We did make them move it back a few feet.
It was closer on the earlier plan.
Andy Peters made a motion to approve the condominium. Tom
Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Mark Strobel abstained.
Public Participation and/or questions.
Carrie
Schneider candidate for Outagamie County Judge.
Carrie
is currently the District Attorney for Outagamie County.
She grew up in this area. Carrie
stated she pursues grants to create new programs.
She is going to try to create new programs and opportunities.
Dan Garber is running for County Board District 33. Dan is serving his 3rd
term on the Greenville Board of Appeals.
He is involved in the community.
Dan is the volunteer Chairman for the “Adopt a Tree Program” at
the Greenville Lions Park. He is
running for the County Board to represent the citizens.
The Greenville Civic Club will have a meet the candidates night on
the 26th of March at 7:00 p.m. Dan is urging everyone to attend
and come and ask questions.
Chad
Lorenz has a concern about a Town ordinance for construction hours in the
Town. The Town is growing
rapidly and it would help. Dump
trucks are driving by on his street very early in the morning at 5:45 a.m.
Is there a way to put an ordinance in place for hours?
Randy stated there is a noise ordinance but it is not specific.
Chad would like an ordinance on books.
Randy stated this can be taken in to consideration.
Andy Peters suggested we poll the neighboring communities.
Mike Siewert stated he will talk to that specific contractor and let
him know that 5:45 is not acceptable.
Travis Thyssen is running for District 32 for the County Board.
Travis feels there needs to be cohesion between the County and Towns.
Travis wants to represent the people.
District 32 includes part of Grand Chute and part of Greenville.
Recess
Town Board meeting.
Tom
Becher made a motion to recess the Town Board meeting.
Mark Strobel seconded the motion and it was carried and adjourned at
6:54 p.m.
Reconvene
Town Board meeting.
The
meeting was reconvened at 7:49 p.m.
Review
and approve the February Town meeting minutes.
Andy
Peters made a motion to approve the February meeting minutes. Tom
Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Review
and approve the March Town vouchers.
Mike
Woods made a motion to approve the March meeting minutes.
Andy Peters seconded the motion and it was carried
Consideration and possible approval of $6,500 Town expenditure
from
budgeted funds for “Field of Dreams” site plan.
Mike
Woods made a motion to approve the expenditure.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried. Mark Strobel voted
present.
Consideration and possible approval of intergovernmental agreement for
engineering services with Outagamie County for County Trunk GV and Levi
Drive.
This
is a proposal from the County that we pay 25% of the design fee because one
leg is in Greenville. We
negotiated with the County that they pay 100% of the GV east and CB north
cost for engineering. CB will be
engineered to JJ. Mark Strobel
made a motion to approve. We
should also look at a pedestrian trail and curb & gutter.
Tom Becher second the motion and it was carried.
Public
Works Supervisor report
Dean
Schiller is recommending that we hire an operator rather than a foreman for
the open position. That should
save us some money. Andy Peters
made a motion to accept Dean’s report.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Town Administrator Report
March
18th Comprehensive Planning meeting at 5:30 p.m.
March 19th Financial Management meeting at 4:30 p.m.
March 24th Planning
Commission meeting at 5:30 p.m.
Motion
to go into closed session per State Statutes 19.85 (1) (f) for preliminary
consideration of specific personnel issue and investigation of complaint.
Mark
Strobel made a motion to go into closed session.
Tom Becher seconded the motion with all members voting aye.
Motion to come out of closed session.
Tom
Becher made a motion to come out of closed session.
Mark Strobel seconded the motion and it was carried with all members
voting aye.
Adjourn Town Board meeting.
Mark
Strobel made a motion to adjourn the Town Board meeting.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried and adjourned at
8:40 p.m.
Deborah
Wagner,
Town Clerk
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