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December 10, 2007
Town Board Minutes
The meeting was called to order at 5:30 p.m.
Present: Randy
Leiker, Andy Peters, Mark Strobel, Tom Becher and Mike Woods
Approval of
the agenda
Mark Strobel made a motion to approve the agenda and also to move item
21 (f) Review revisions and additions to the Town Public Works Specification
manual up to item 13 so Mike
Siewert can leave. There were no objections.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
\The agenda was properly posted.
Sheriff’s
Department Liaison Officer
Captain Jobe stated the final report for
deployment was submitted. The
Officers are willing to come out and discuss their observations.
Tom Becher stated next year he would like to see less warnings
and more tickets issued.
Reports
Fire Department/First Responders
reports – accept minutes
Mark Strobel made a motion to accept the meeting minutes.
Andy Peters seconded the motion and it was carried.
Park Commission – accept minutes
The overnight parking signs are in place.
The semi is still in the park with the signs up.
This will be taken care of. Andy
Peters made a motion to accept the meeting minutes. Mark
Strobel seconded the motion and it was carried.
1.
Tony’s
report – Mark Strobel made a motion to accept Tony’s Report.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
2.
Policy on vandalism
regarding Town owned property. Park
Commission recommends approval.
This is the final recommendation by the Park Board.
Captain Jobe has not had a chance to look at the policy yet. Mark
Strobel questioned if we want anything in there about deferred prosecution?
Randy Leiker stated this policy is so we have a standard.
This was the Judge’s recommendation for the policy.
Maureen Budiak (Judge candidate who was at the meeting to speak to
the audience ) stated this has to go to court initially and the judge weighs
in whether they want to offer deferred prosecution depending on the
person’s history. Mike
Woods made a motion to table so Captain Jobe could look it over first.
We can defer this to next month.
Andy Peters seconded the motion and it was carried.
Constable report
– accept report
We have another large bill from the Humane Association. Vicki
needs to get copy of the bill before this is paid.
Mark Strobel feels we should look at licensing cats also.
We are charged for ferrell cats brought into the shelter.
We will poll the surrounding communities for cat licensing and see
what they do. Mike Woods
made a motion to accept the Constable report. Tom
Becher seconded the motion and it was carried
1. Update
on the Humane Officer position - the
Town Board has not had a chance to review this.
Dave Tebo talked to Rich Carlson and he stated we may want to prepare
a local ordinance. Tom Becher
made a motion to table. Mark
Strobel seconded the motion and it was carried.
Urban Forestry –
no minutes were submitted.
Public
participation and/or questions
Maureen Budiak is running for Judge in Outagamie
County. She is presently the
Court Commissioner for the County. She
presently does family court and child support hearings.
She does preliminary matters in felonies. She
feels she is qualified to run for Judge.
Review of
amendment to the Town of Greenville Zoning Ordinance for the Gateway Overlay
District and the Heritage Overlay District.
Dave Tebo stated the Heritage Overlay was pretty
much agreed on at the last meeting. Mark
Strobel had additional thoughts on the Gateway Overlay.
Randy Leiker thought we were going to insert some of Mark’s
comments into the Gateway. Dave
Tebo stated that it was difficult to pull points out of Mark’s version and
put it into our proposed ordinance because of the way it is written.
It really is not that much different.
Rich Carlson’s version is consistent with our Zoning
Ordinance. Rich’s version has
an approval process and Marks did not. Mark’s
landscaping was more restrictive.
Mr. Tebo recommends that we add the landscaping and building
materials to Mr. Carlson’s version.
Mark would like to add off street loading, dumpster area, outdoor
storage, and exterior lighting to our proposed version.
Resident Dave Schlimm feels we are stopping development on the
corridors coming into town with this ordinance.
You are basically stopping it. Mark
Strobel stated that many communities have this type of overlay in place. Dave
Schlimm is against this. Are you
going to treat our property (Schlimm farm) differently? You
are chasing big business away. Dave
Schlimm stated their property is surrounded by highways.
We have covenants that are good and protect the land.
Are you going to shut other buildings down that are non-conforming?
No, we are addressing the non-conforming buildings in our ordinance.
Mr. Schlimm questioned who is going to enforce this.
Mr. Tebo stated it is part of the ordinance that it be reviewed by
the Planning Commission through site plan review. Mr.
Schlimm stated the Town should clean up the mess out there now before you
add any more to the books. Dean
Culbertson questioned if a barn is exempt from this if a barn burns down.
Randy Leiker stated it would not be a change in use.
Dean would like to see agriculture exempted.
Dave Tebo stated he can talk to Rich and add language for that.
Randy Leiker suggested that Mark Strobel take a red pen and hand write in
the changes onto Rich’s copy. It
would be easier to review.
Mike Woods made a motion to table both for next month’s meeting.
Andy Peters seconded the motion and it was carried.
Public Hearing
– Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance for nonconforming structures.
Tom Becher made a motion to hold off until on this
until we approve the Gateway and Heritage Ordinances.
Mike Woods seconded the motion and it was carried.
Public hearing
– Amendment to the Town of Greenville Subdivision Control Ordinance for
Residential Street Traffic Calming.
The hearing was called to order at 6:15 p.m.
Dean Schiller stated this is an addition to the Subdivision Ordinance for
developers. It is for speed
control in subdivisions. It
will put in speed control points to slow traffic down. It
tells tangents and when a curve is needed.
There are other traffic control devices such as circles, medians, and
to narrow up the road along with raised crosswalks.
This is for new development only. Existing
development would be a policy a issue. This
was based off of a seminar that Dean attended and other area ordinances.
Mike Siewert from Martenson & Eisele reviewed the proposal. The
guidelines are to slow traffic down. This
is one of our biggest complaints.
Mr. Schlimm questioned if this is for residential only. Yes,
commercial has different standards.
Tom Becher thinks it is a good idea.
Tom looked at some examples in Madison and they are nice.
Sharon Tornes approves and agrees of such an approach.
Andy Peters made a motion to close the public hearing.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried and closed at 6:23
p.m.
Tom Becher made a motion to approve. Dave
Tebo suggested one amendment that under 8.
Design and Construction Standards, it should say see Town of
Greenville Specification Manual. Mark
Strobel seconded the motion with that change and it was carried.
Item moved up
on agenda – Public Works Supervisor report
Review
revisions and additions to Town Public Works Specification Manual.
Mike Siewert stated the main thing was to add traffic
calming ideas into the specs and some housekeeping items.
One item to add is a standard bolt down cover for security such as
near a creek so kids cannot get into them.
Mike will send letters out to all engineering firms informing
them of the change. The
charge is $15 for a copy.
Mike Woods made a motion to approve with change.
Andy Peters seconded the motion and it was carried.
Back to the
agenda order –
Planning Commission recommendations:
CSM for Al
Buman – North Road, South of School Road – approve.
Andy Peters made a motion to approve the CSM.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Official road mapping on the Al Buman
property from River Drive to North Road – approve
Tom Becher made a motion to approve the road mapping. Andy
Peters seconded the motion and it was carried.
Rezoning – Sandy
Flease – rezone property located on the southern corner of Moon Shadow
Drive and Greenwood Road from two family to commercial – deny
There were more questions than answers at the
public hearing. They may come back with a site plan at a later date.
Andy Peters made a motion to deny.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Old business
Resolution
authorizing an application to the Board of commissioners of Public Lands for
a loan of $100,000 for the purpose of purchasing property for park land and
levying a tax therewith.
Dave Schlimm stated this was not in the budget.
Dave Tebo stated this does not impact this budget this year.
The first payment is not due until next year.
Dave Schlimm stated that is because you did not put it in the budget.
Tom Becher stated the people voted at a Special Meeting
to go ahead with this. This item
is just for the resolution which was previously approved. Dave Schlimm does
not like where this budget is. Mike
Woods stated he is totally opposed to buying this.
Dave Schlimm stated you do not know what you are doing with this
house yet. Mike Woods would like
the Town to relook at old bank building.
It was stated that that building was previously strongly voted down
by the people. Schlimm
questioned what is the need for this property? Randy
stated is will be added to the park. Andy
Peters stated we did have a Special Town Meeting.
It was approved by the Town people.
When the park land was purchased, it was written in an agreement by a
previous administration that we had the right of first refusal on the home
and land when it was offered for sale. Schlimm
feels it should be put on a referendum like the library was.
A petition was received to put the library on a referendum. Dave
Tebo stated, Dave (Schlimm) you are welcome to your opinion but there has
been a long process up to this point. If
you had attended all the meetings you would know.
Schlimm questioned why was it not in the budget? Mr.
Tebo stated because we borrowed for it.
We could have gone up to about 14% for the budget for 2008 but we
stayed at 6%. We stayed well
under our allowable limit. We
cut other things out of budget to hold it down.
Schlimm questioned, where are we going to draw the line on parks?
Tom Becher made a motion to approve the resolution. That
is what the vote was that night. We
already have the barn and we are still not sure what we are going to do with
that. It could be a museum.
We have to think ahead. We
cannot sit on our hands all the time.
Andy Peters seconded the motion and it was carried. Mike
Woods voted nay.
Mark Strobel had to leave at this point.
Resolution
authorizing the sale of the former landfill site of 5 acres for $9,900.
Dave Tebo stated this resolution is to sell the
property.
Mike Woods made a motion to
approve. Tom Becher seconded the
motion and it was carried.
Resolution
clarifying the current policy for reimbursing Town Board Supervisors and
Sanitary District Commissioners
Dave Tebo stated the definition is of what current
town policy is. Andy Peters made
a motion to approve. He stated
it appears to be same policy they have been using since he was first on the
board. It clarifies a few
things. Tom Becher seconded the
motion. Dean Culbertson stated
wages should not be controversial. Make
life simple for yourselves. A
number of communities in county no longer have per diem.
Dean Culbertson stated the purpose of a per diem is to get board
members to meetings. Set it up
real simple. A meeting that is
posted should be paid a per diem.
Randy Leiker stated we already looked at that and have included
that in the resolution. Dave
Schlimm named some communities without a per diem.
Randy Leiker stated that without per diems, many communities have
larger salaries to cover that. Randy
Leiker stated that phone calls are not a per diem.
One person meetings are not per diem.
It includes meetings with developers that last a longer period of
time. Dean feels that is all
part of the salary and not a per diem. Tom
Becher stated we are not changing anything that wasn’t already there.
Now it is in black and white. It
is probably the same as when Dean was on the board.
Andy Peters made a motion to approve.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Andy Peters made a motion to recess the Town Board meeting.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried and recessed
at 6:54 p.m.
The meeting was reconvened at 7:02 p.m.
Minutes and
Vouchers
Mike Woods made a motion to approve the November
meeting minutes. Tom
Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Andy Peters made a motion to withhold the Humane Society voucher until we
get an explanation on that bill. Tom
Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Public Works
Supervisor report
Review and
possible approval of low bid for pay loader/plow equipment
Dean Schiller stated this is for winter equipment.
It is for a 12’ plow and a 10’ wing.
Dean got four proposals. $22,000
was the low bid from Aring Equipment.
This is lower than what was budgeted for.
Tom Becher made a motion to approve. Mike
Woods seconded the motion and it was carried.
Review and
possible approval of low bid for security gate
This is for the public works area. Dean
received 3 proposals. Security
Fence was the low bid at $8,568. We
are reusing some of the fence we already have. There
will be two remotes, one on each side of the fence.
This is just getting the fence.
It does not include electrical work but it should still come in under
budget.
Mike Woods made a motion to approve.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Review and
possible approval of low bid for paint striper
Two proposals were received.
Lines will be placed inside the public works building to help
parking vehicles and so the crew can learn how to use it.
The low bid of $ 4,365 is with Sherwin Industries.
This is also under budget.
Andy Peters made a motion to accept the bid.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Review of snow
related ordinances
Dean Schiller stated this deals with the
depositing of snow on public right-of-ways. No
person from any place shall be able to place snow on traveled portions of a
roadway or sidewalk. There
is a fee schedule for penalties.
A person cannot push snow across road.
Businesses cannot put snow in ditches.
Sidewalks must be kept clean within 24 hours.
Snow or ice must be removed.
If they fail to remove, the Public Works Department can do it and
bill back. Clem Reimer has a
problem with the sidewalks. Randy Leiker stated our previous discussion was
that we look at the Town taking care of the sidewalk seeing it is our only
sidewalk. The
sidewalk was decided upon by a previous administration. If
it was made one foot wider, it could be called a trail and not a sidewalk.
It would have cost too much to redo state contract to replace it with
a trail. We tried everything
possible to call this a trail. The
State Statutes do not allow it to be called a trail because of the width.
Majority of the people out there are shoveling the sidewalk.
Mike Woods heard people question why is the town plowing
it using tax payer dollars to plow it?
Dean Schiller state if we don’t pass this, we are under the state
rules. Andy would like to
separate this so we can vote on the pushing snow into the road. Pull
out the violations for sidewalks for now until we can decide.
Randy stated the most aggravating part is these people were
told by the state that is was a trail.
The whole package will be sent to a public hearing.
The sidewalk issue should be separate at that meeting.
Tom Becher made a motion to send this to a split public hearing.
Mike Woods seconded the motion and it was carried.
Ordinance on
parking in the row
There is currently all night parking of commercial
vehicles on town roads and in the park.
No construction equipment or containers will be allowed to park in
the roadway. There is a
section for no parking for snow plowing in town during winter months.
No parking is allowed in areas without curb and gutter.
The Town Chairman may allow this to be waived for special events.
Mike Woods would like to see the Sheriff’s Department be able to
enforce it. Randy Leiker
advised we clean it up to try to mirror the county ordinance.
Mike Woods made a motion to fine
tune and send to a public hearing at the next meeting.
Tom Becher seconded the motion and it was carried.
Town
administrator
Upcoming meetings
Planning Commission – December 17th at 5:30
p.m
Comprehensive Planning Meeting -
December 18th at 5:30 p.m.
Closed session personnel evaluations on December 17, 18 19 20th -
3:00 on the 17th, 3:00 on the 18th, 3:00 on the
19th, and 4:00 on the
20th.
January 14th - Conservation
Subdivision Ordinance at 5:30 p.m.
Town Clerk
Re-appoint
election workers
Debbie Wagner stated this is for a year period.
Andy Peters made a motion to approve. Mike
Woods seconded the motion and it carried.
Tom Becher made a motion to adjourn the Town Board meeting.
Mike Woods seconded the motion and it was carried and adjourned
at 7:59 p.m.
Deborah Wagner,
Town Clerk
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